Dear All,
Please take some time to go through this survey which shall help us contribute towards the development of IXPs in the AFRICAN region :)
Regards,
Keessun
-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: [af-ix] Fwd: PCH peering survey 2016 Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 09:37:38 +0200 From: Nishal Goburdhan nishal@ispa.org.za To: af-ix af-ix@af-ix.net
hi there af-ix.
could you help circulate this survey request within your respective IX communities please. the results of the last survey are still used as reference matter (i know that both michuki and i use “the 99% don’t need a peering agreement statistic all the time) and we’d really like to update the data.
thanks in advance, —n.
Forwarded message:
From: Bill Woodcock woody@pch.net To: afnog@afnog.org Subject: [afnog] PCH peering survey 2016 Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 17:04:16 -0700
Background:
Five years ago PCH conducted the first, and to date only, comprehensive survey characterizing Internet peering agreements.
The document that resulted can be found here: https://www.pch.net/resources/Papers/peering-survey/PCH-Peering-Survey-2011.... https://www.pch.net/resources/Papers/peering-survey/PCH-Peering-Survey-2011.pdf
That document was one of the principal inputs to an important document that the OECD publishes every five years, one that recommends communications regulatory policy to OECD member nations: http://www.oecd.org/officialdocuments/publicdisplaydocumentpdf/?cote=DSTI/IC... http://www.oecd.org/officialdocuments/publicdisplaydocumentpdf/?cote=DSTI/ICCP/CISP(2011)2/FINAL&docLanguage=En
The survey had several useful findings which hadn’t previously been established as fact—most notably the portion of peering relationships that are “handshake” agreements, without written contract. These findings have improved the regulatory environments in which many of us operate our networks.
At the time of the 2011 survey, we committed to repeating the survey every five years, so as to provide an ongoing indication of the direction peering trends take. It’s now five years later, so we’re repeating the survey.
The survey is global in scope, and our goal is to reflect the diversity of peering agreements in the world; we’re interested in large ISPs and small ISPs, ISPs in Afghanistan and in Zimbabwe, bilateral agreements and multilateral, private and public. Our intent is to be as comprehensive as possible. In 2011, the responses we received represented 86% of all of the world’s ISPs and 96 countries. We would like to be at least as inclusive this time.
Privacy:
In 2011, we promised to collect the smallest set of data necessary to answer the questions, to perform the analysis immediately, and not to retain the data after the analysis was accomplished. In that way, we ensured that the privacy of respondents was fully protected. We did as we said, no data was leaked, and the whole community benefited from the trust that was extended to us. We ask for your trust again now as we make the same commitment to protect the privacy of all respondents, using the same process as last time. We are asking for no more data than is absolutely necessary. We will perform the analysis immediately upon receiving all of the data. We will delete the data once the analysis has been performed.
The Survey:
We would like to know the following five pieces of information relative to each Autonomous System you peer with:
• Your ASN • Your peer’s ASN (peers only, not upstream transit providers or downstream customers) • Whether a written and signed peering agreement exists (the alternative being a less formal arrangement, such as a "handshake agreement") • Whether the terms are roughly symmetric (the alternative being that they describe an agreement with different terms for each of the two parties, such as one compensating the other, or one receiving more or fewer than full customer routes) • Whether a jurisdiction of governing law is defined • Whether IPv6 routes are being exchanged (this year, we’ll still assume that IPv4 are)
The easiest way for us to receive the information is as a tab-text or CSV file or an Excel spreadsheet, consisting of rows with the following columns:
Your ASN: Integer Peer ASN: Integer Written agreement: Boolean Symmetric: Boolean Governing Law: ISO 3166 two-digit country-code, or empty IPv6 Routes: Boolean
For instance:
42 <tab> 715 <tab> false <tab> true <tab> us <tab> true <cr> 42 <tab> 3856 <tab> true <tab> true <tab> us <tab> true <cr>
We are asking for the ASNs only so we can avoid double-counting a single pair of peers when we hear from both of them, and so that when we hear about a relationship in responses from both peers we can see how closely the two responses match, an important check on the quality of the survey. As soon as we've collated the data, we'll strip the ASNs to protect privacy, and only the final aggregate statistics will be published. We will never disclose any ASN or any information about any ASN. We already have more than 8,000 ASN-pair relationships documented, and we hope to receive as many more as possible. We'd like to finish collecting data by the end of September, about two weeks from now.
If you’re peering with an MLPA route-server, you’re welcome to include just the route-server’s ASN, if that’s easiest, rather than trying to include each of the peer ASNs on the other side of the route-server. Either way is fine.
If all of your sessions have the same characteristics, you can just tell us what those characteristics are once, your own ASN once, and give us a simple list of your peer ASNs.
If your number of peers is small enough to be pasted or typed into an email, rather than attached as a file, and that’s simpler, just go ahead and do that.
If you have written peering agreements that are covered by non-disclosure agreements, or if your organizational policy precludes disclosing your peers, but you’d still like to participate in the survey, please let us know, and we’ll work with whatever information you’re able to give us and try to ensure that your practices are statistically represented in our results.
If you're able to help us, please email me the data in whatever form you can. If you need a non-disclosure, we're happy to sign one.
Finally, if there are any other questions you’d like to see answered in the future, please let us know so that we can consider addressing them in the 2021 survey. The question about IPv6 routing in this year’s survey is there because quite a few of the 2011 respondents asked us to include it this time.
Please respond by replying to this email, before the end of September.
Thank you for considering participating. We very much appreciate it, and we look forward to returning the results to the community.
-Bill Woodcock Executive Director Packet Clearing House
_______________________________________________ af-ix mailing list af-ix@af-ix.net http://af-ix.net/mailman/listinfo/af-ix_af-ix.net
On 16 Sep 2016, at 8:47, Keessun Fokeerah wrote:
Dear All,
Please take some time to go through this survey which shall help us contribute towards the development of IXPs in the AFRICAN region :)
hi there,
it’s less about IXPs in the african region, and more about collecting data globally, in a neutral manner. the results that we got from the last survey are often used to cite the “how” networks peer; which is invaluable information for regulators.
put another way: those of us that work in peering circles, often talk about the peering community being self-regulating. this is just one step towards collecting data to support this.
please contribute; for more networks, this won’t take very long and does really help us to get better quality data.
—n.
Dear Keessun,
With regards to the survey, please find below information.
ASN: None (GOC is a downstream Customer of Mauritius Telecom) Peer ASN: 36894 Written agreement: True Symmetric: False Governing Law: ICT Act and Computer Misuse and Cybercrime Act IPv6 Routes: False
Regards Nitish GOC From: mixp-discussion-bounces@mixp.org [mailto:mixp-discussion-bounces@mixp.org] On Behalf Of Keessun Fokeerah Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:47 AM To: MIXP-Announcement@mixp.org; MIXP-Discussion@mixp.org Subject: [MIXP Discussion] Fwd: [af-ix] Fwd: PCH peering survey 2016
Dear All,
Please take some time to go through this survey which shall help us contribute towards the development of IXPs in the AFRICAN region :)
Regards,
Keessun
-------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject:
[af-ix] Fwd: PCH peering survey 2016
Date:
Thu, 15 Sep 2016 09:37:38 +0200
From:
Nishal Goburdhan nishal@ispa.org.zamailto:nishal@ispa.org.za
To:
af-ix af-ix@af-ix.netmailto:af-ix@af-ix.net
hi there af-ix.
could you help circulate this survey request within your respective IX
communities please.
the results of the last survey are still used as reference matter (i
know that both michuki and i use “the 99% don’t need a peering
agreement statistic all the time) and we’d really like to update the
data.
thanks in advance,
—n.
Forwarded message:
From: Bill Woodcock woody@pch.netmailto:woody@pch.net
To: afnog@afnog.orgmailto:afnog@afnog.org
Subject: [afnog] PCH peering survey 2016
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 17:04:16 -0700
Background:
Five years ago PCH conducted the first, and to date only,
comprehensive survey characterizing Internet peering agreements.
The document that resulted can be found here:
https://www.pch.net/resources/Papers/peering-survey/PCH-Peering-Survey-2011....
https://www.pch.net/resources/Papers/peering-survey/PCH-Peering-Survey-2011.pdfhttps://www.pch.net/resources/Papers/peering-survey/PCH-Peering-Survey-2011.pdf
That document was one of the principal inputs to an important document
that the OECD publishes every five years, one that recommends
communications regulatory policy to OECD member nations:
http://www.oecd.org/officialdocuments/publicdisplaydocumentpdf/?cote=DSTI/IC...
http://www.oecd.org/officialdocuments/publicdisplaydocumentpdf/?cote=DSTI/ICCP/CISP(2011)2/FINAL&docLanguage=Enhttp://www.oecd.org/officialdocuments/publicdisplaydocumentpdf/?cote=DSTI/ICCP/CISP(2011)2/FINAL&docLanguage=En
The survey had several useful findings which hadn’t previously been
established as fact—most notably the portion of peering
relationships that are “handshake” agreements, without written
contract. These findings have improved the regulatory environments in
which many of us operate our networks.
At the time of the 2011 survey, we committed to repeating the survey
every five years, so as to provide an ongoing indication of the
direction peering trends take. It’s now five years later, so we’re
repeating the survey.
The survey is global in scope, and our goal is to reflect the
diversity of peering agreements in the world; we’re interested in
large ISPs and small ISPs, ISPs in Afghanistan and in Zimbabwe,
bilateral agreements and multilateral, private and public. Our intent
is to be as comprehensive as possible. In 2011, the responses we
received represented 86% of all of the world’s ISPs and 96
countries. We would like to be at least as inclusive this time.
Privacy:
In 2011, we promised to collect the smallest set of data necessary to
answer the questions, to perform the analysis immediately, and not to
retain the data after the analysis was accomplished. In that way, we
ensured that the privacy of respondents was fully protected. We did as
we said, no data was leaked, and the whole community benefited from
the trust that was extended to us. We ask for your trust again now as
we make the same commitment to protect the privacy of all respondents,
using the same process as last time. We are asking for no more data
than is absolutely necessary. We will perform the analysis immediately
upon receiving all of the data. We will delete the data once the
analysis has been performed.
The Survey:
We would like to know the following five pieces of information
relative to each Autonomous System you peer with:
• Your ASN
• Your peer’s ASN (peers only, not upstream transit providers or
downstream customers)
• Whether a written and signed peering agreement exists (the
alternative being a less formal arrangement, such as a "handshake
agreement")
• Whether the terms are roughly symmetric (the alternative being
that they describe an agreement with different terms for each of the
two parties, such as one compensating the other, or one receiving more
or fewer than full customer routes)
• Whether a jurisdiction of governing law is defined
• Whether IPv6 routes are being exchanged (this year, we’ll still
assume that IPv4 are)
The easiest way for us to receive the information is as a tab-text or
CSV file or an Excel spreadsheet, consisting of rows with the
following columns:
Your ASN: Integer
Peer ASN: Integer
Written agreement: Boolean
Symmetric: Boolean
Governing Law: ISO 3166 two-digit country-code, or empty
IPv6 Routes: Boolean
For instance:
42 <tab> 715 <tab> false <tab> true <tab> us <tab> true <cr>
42 <tab> 3856 <tab> true <tab> true <tab> us <tab> true <cr>
We are asking for the ASNs only so we can avoid double-counting a
single pair of peers when we hear from both of them, and so that when
we hear about a relationship in responses from both peers we can see
how closely the two responses match, an important check on the quality
of the survey. As soon as we've collated the data, we'll strip the
ASNs to protect privacy, and only the final aggregate statistics will
be published. We will never disclose any ASN or any information about
any ASN. We already have more than 8,000 ASN-pair relationships
documented, and we hope to receive as many more as possible. We'd like
to finish collecting data by the end of September, about two weeks
from now.
If you’re peering with an MLPA route-server, you’re welcome to
include just the route-server’s ASN, if that’s easiest, rather
than trying to include each of the peer ASNs on the other side of the
route-server. Either way is fine.
If all of your sessions have the same characteristics, you can just
tell us what those characteristics are once, your own ASN once, and
give us a simple list of your peer ASNs.
If your number of peers is small enough to be pasted or typed into an
email, rather than attached as a file, and that’s simpler, just go
ahead and do that.
If you have written peering agreements that are covered by
non-disclosure agreements, or if your organizational policy precludes
disclosing your peers, but you’d still like to participate in the
survey, please let us know, and we’ll work with whatever information
you’re able to give us and try to ensure that your practices are
statistically represented in our results.
If you're able to help us, please email me the data in whatever form
you can. If you need a non-disclosure, we're happy to sign one.
Finally, if there are any other questions you’d like to see answered
in the future, please let us know so that we can consider addressing
them in the 2021 survey. The question about IPv6 routing in this
year’s survey is there because quite a few of the 2011 respondents
asked us to include it this time.
Please respond by replying to this email, before the end of September.
Thank you for considering participating. We very much appreciate it,
and we look forward to returning the results to the community.
-Bill Woodcock
Executive Director
Packet Clearing House
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On 20 Sep 2016, at 3:21 PM, Nitish Mahadeo nmahadeo@ncb.mu wrote:
Dear Keessun, With regards to the survey, please find below information.
Hi all,
If you agree to send this data, please send directly to PCH: woody@pch.net or nishal@pch.net
- Daniel
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